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Airframes => Double Seaters => Topic started by: Texas Flyer on October 03, 2015, 06:57:01 PM

Title: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Texas Flyer on October 03, 2015, 06:57:01 PM
Has anyone flown a Double Eagle with a passenger?
I only see videos and information with pilot only.
From what I've heard, a lot of builders are making modifications and going way over design Empty Weight.
What is your experience flying two adults?
How are the seats?
Any suggestions?
What would you do differently on your second Double Eagle build?
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Tom H on October 04, 2015, 08:18:38 AM
DE Stubby has only flown with the pilot.  I've done fast taxis with a passenger on board and lifted off slightly, but the field we operate from is not conducive to test flying - too much "progress" in the area.  It seems that it should fly OK, though.

We hope to get to a larger field with open spaces around to gradually add weight to the passenger seat to finally answer this.

Stubby is heavy, with too much panel, a full accessory engine and a stout main gear.  All useful at times.  If building again, I would build the airplane lighter.  Forego the "nice" stuff, be real selective.  Probably shave off 50-100 lbs.
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Texas Flyer on October 04, 2015, 12:09:30 PM
You have a great looking plane on the Home Page.
Doesn't look like it would be heavy.
I am wondering if it is too underpowered to use for Young Eagles flights and training.
I thought it would be lighter and better than a Champ or Cub with a 65 hp engine.  
The website shows a 515 lb useful load, but it sounds like most being built at 400 lb or less.  
Appears to be a 1.5 person plane.
Thanks
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2015, 06:07:14 PM
You have a great looking plane on the Home Page.
Doesn't look like it would be heavy.
I am wondering if it is too underpowered to use for Young Eagles flights and training.
I thought it would be lighter and better than a Champ or Cub with a 65 hp engine.  
The website shows a 515 lb useful load, but it sounds like most being built at 400 lb or less.  
Appears to be a 1.5 person plane.
Thanks
There are vids on the Cabin Eagle Facebook page of Joao in Brazil and B. Faires flying an adult and a pre-teen child respectively in their DE's...
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Texas Flyer on October 04, 2015, 07:53:34 PM
Steve,
I found the Joao in Brazil first flight, but didn't see any mention of a passenger.
Perhaps there is a second video?
I haven't found the B. Faires video on the website or by Google.
Joao's panel looks first class.
Do you know the empty weight?
What engine did he use?
Does the Cabin Eagle use the VW engine?
Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: ParQld on October 04, 2015, 08:32:31 PM
Hey Texas Flyer here are the links to Bubba Faires Videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQkJnY-ZJXE this one with Pax as Steve said and the second one without

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bCDsWNeH-4

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Texas Flyer on October 04, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
That was a big help.
Exactly what I wanted.
Makes me want to get one now.
Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
That was a big help.
Exactly what I wanted.
Makes me want to get one now.
Thanks a bunch!



mp4 file attached to msg in old Yahoo conversations here: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EaglersNests/conversations/messages/27304 (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/EaglersNests/conversations/messages/27304)

Both B. Faires & Joao are running strong Vw's with well matched props - Joao has more than one vid out there going 2up...
Title: Re: Flying Double Eagle With Passenger
Post by: Dan_ on October 05, 2015, 04:08:58 PM

Both B. Faires & Joao are running strong Vw's with well matched props - Joao has more than one vid out there going 2up...









Heres Joao 2 up taking off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2CVKcYuzks

Joao 2 up landing...  Carry power all the way in for the wheelie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilf8Vj1P3ZQ
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