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New guy
« on: October 01, 2022, 07:22:30 PM »
Hi! I'm new here. Just got my paper plans for the DE today. I've never really built much of anything before. Not sure how it's going to go. The plans look a bit overwhelming. I've always loved aircraft but am not a pilot yet. I'll be getting a sports license as the time to fly gets nearer. I'm more apprehensive about building the aircraft than I am about learning to fly. I have access to MIG, TIG, and gas welding as well as a fully equipped woodshop. Just need to learn these skills which I'm going to do. Which is better gas or TIG welding. Like I said I have access to either system. Wish me luck or any advice would be great! Thanks!

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Re: New guy
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2022, 07:57:27 AM »
Welcome to the LE forum. I've been a machinist/welder/fabricator for (gulp) 60 years..and in my honest opinion gas is easier to learn and more forgiving than TIG. I'd avoid MIG for aircraft welding.
Fortunately for you, there are videos galore on learning to weld on the net. Back in the day (snapping suspenders, tamping corncob pipe)  :)  a guy had to either get the information from a book or get an experienced welder to teach him.

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Re: New guy
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2022, 10:57:50 AM »
Thanks! Do you think it would be easier for me to learn gas or tig if I learned mig welding first just to learn puddle control? Then jump over to gas or tig so I could introduce filler rod coordination to the torch/puddle control? I did take a small welding course a number of years back that my great uncle taught. He's now 85 years old but has many years of welding experienc that may be interested in teaching me and my son if I asked him. He ran a manufacturing plant and designed a lot of stuff too.

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Re: New guy
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2022, 11:01:22 AM »
I'm hoping that I can make sense of the plans as well. I spent a little time with them and they started to make a little more sense the more I studied them. I'll have plenty of time to study them as I develop my welding skills. Like I said I have access to most of the tools to build the DE anytime I want to use them. (My dad owns them and seldom if ever uses them).

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Re: New guy
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2022, 11:59:30 AM »
Welcome to the Eagler's Nest and homebuilt aircraft. Skip the MIG for puddle control. Everything happens so fast in MIG, the puddle is not the same as gas or TIG, especially on thin steel. MIG is good for tacking stuff together, but gas or TIG is best for the finished welds. If you learn puddle control with gas, you can convert to TIG easily, but TIG was not around when chromoly tubing was first used in aircraft. Gas was the way to go. Since you will be learning to weld as you go, I suggest you build the empennage before the fuselage. That will give you a lot of welding practice on simpler joints. By the time you get the empennage welded, you should be competent enough to do a good job on the fuselage.

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Re: New guy
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2022, 01:20:23 PM »
I like the idea of building the empennage first. So it looks like I can go either way on tig or gas. I know gas was used for years in aircraft frames and allowed for heating a wider area and cooling down slower thus preventing stress risers.

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Re: New guy
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2022, 10:13:09 AM »
Leonard says to wave goodbye with the torch to a gas weld to make it cool slower...

Also search for a post on here with instructions on "balancing the gases".

Also when starting a weld (tig or gas) angle the torch fire up and remove the torch.  If the angle is right the color will go out of both tubes at the same rate.  An absolute must when welding different thicknesses.


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