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Offline Tom H

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Wood Bar Dyno
« on: February 24, 2014, 07:31:39 AM »
This is a spin-off from Jim's XL Built topic.

Answering Gil's question in the other topic, the instrument I am talking about is called a "wood bar dyno".  From what I remember, it was developed by some French guy back in the late 1800's, and I believe is considered valid.  Several Eaglers have used it to check their engine performance.

A spreadsheet used to be on the old Yahoo EaglersNests site, but I was not able to find it just now.  I found one version of it on my computer, and tried to attached it to this post, but it won't allow a xls file.

Basically, the technique uses a wood bar of a specific length with a square cross-section, with sides of that square 1/15th of the length.  In the middle is a wider section to allow the bar to bolt to the prop hub.

Here is a print-out of one spreadsheet that I used:


Wood Bar Dynamometer
test club is square cross section, width = length / 15
HP = 0.0532 x (dia/450)^5 x (rpm/1000)^3
pick length(in)calc length(mm)calc width(mm)calc width(in)@ RPMcalc HP
28.00711.2047.411.8720004.20
22505.98
25008.20
275010.91
300014.16
310015.63
320017.19
330018.85
340020.62
350022.49
360024.47
30.00762.0050.802.0020005.93
22508.44
250011.57
275015.40
300020.00
320024.27
330026.62
340029.11
350031.76
360034.56
32.00812.8054.192.1320008.18
225011.65
250015.98
275021.27
300027.61
310030.47
320033.51
330036.75
340040.20
350043.85
360047.72
34.00863.6057.572.27200011.08
225015.77
250021.64
275028.80
300037.39
310041.26
320045.38
330049.77
340054.43
350059.38
360064.61
36.00914.4060.962.40200014.74
225020.99
250028.80
275038.33
300049.76
310054.91
320060.39
330066.23
340072.44
350079.02
360085.99
38.00965.2064.352.53200019.32
225027.51
250037.74
275050.23
300065.21
310071.95
320079.14
330086.79
340094.92
3500103.55
3600112.68
If the sheet shows above - -   - - we used a 30 inch bar, and our engine, at full throttle, spun it to 3400 rpm, resulting in about 29 hp.

This is only one point.  If you want to generate a dyno curve showing max hp at every rpm,  you will need a series of bars of different lengths.  Then, each bar is run on the engine at full throttle.  Each rpm/hp point can then be put on a chart, and the dots connected, which will give a crude dyno curve for the engine.  I am sure that air temp, humidity, pressure etc. will alter the results, but I don't know of any correction factors for that.  This technique will give some validity to hp claims, but won't produce laboratory quality results.

Hope that helps.

Tom H
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Re: Wood Bar Dyno
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 07:55:35 AM »
Looks like I will be making one, sure hope it don't come apart!


Thanks Tom

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Re: Wood Bar Dyno
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 08:56:42 AM »
Looks like I will be making one, sure hope it don't come apart!


Thanks Tom

The dimensions of the bar require wood working accuracy - the edges must be true and with very little rounding of the corners...
Bars for prop extensions with bolt patterns < 4" should be laminated to assure adequate hub strength...

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